You must be logged in to leave a comment. I think it was in a little bit of a weird spot last year, Lance said. Everybody has their opinion on it. Rarely were plays designed for Lance to attack the middle of the field. So we look for what we call passive layback your arm has to give your hip time to get ahead. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. If he can stay healthy, hell be a quality backup with a chance to develop into a starting-caliber player. Lance has said he doesnt intend to tinker with his throwing motion, which is decidedly longer than Garoppolos and Purdys clipped deliveries. Speaking to ESPN's Jeremy Fowler, an opposing team's offensive coach pointed out that Lance's throwing motion looked "wonky" from what he saw in 2021. The Bison, though, opted to play a single October game against Central Arkansas, turning a relatively nondescript matchup into a one-time, high-stakes opportunity for Lance to showcase his abilities for every NFL team. He could keep that pre-pass a little bit more neutral because he was relaxed in the carriage and then it would be like up here and then it would be down here right, and so my only criticism would be if were gonna do that, lets just start down here and keep it down there and then it just matches, Hewlett said. He does play with his release from throw to throw, but even with the dip, the ball comes out lightning-quick. Due to his mobility, there will be plenty of chances to take some deep shots off of play-action that might not necessarily be the game plan for North Dakota State but will be in the NFL. If you feel like donating and want access to some early blog releases and exclusive breakdown content or to help us keep things running, you can visit our Patreon pagehere. Trey Lance taking ownership of 49ers quarterback position, not obsessing over mechanics 49ers Lance hasnt overhauled his throwing motion and doesnt think its Lance could benefit from making a similar adjustment. Rather, Shananan prefers Lance to simply execute the plays that are called in a methodical fashion as opposed to trying to make something big happen on every snap. When you climb up the ladder and face tougher competition, you wont be able to get away with missing throws by being wild. That limited the impact his mobility had in the passing game. His throwing motion is crisp and compact, and it allows him to generate consistent velocity. It wasnt anything close to real football. (Odum and undrafted rookie free-agent cornerback Kadar Hollman were beaten on Sudfelds long TD pass to Turner.). Try a week on us. And I wish him the best, so well leave it at that.. Klay will continue to work with Griese and the quarterbacks. The 22-year-old signal-caller lacked experience in college and has started only four NFL games in But thats how it goes, that was the situation I was in, and I tried to embrace my role and make the most out of it.. 49ers practice report: Trey Lances altered motion about angles, not an overhaul, San Francisco is at its most unaffordable point in at least a decade. But I think we leave with nothing but fond memories of Jimmy. The 49ers have observed six quarters of Trey Lances play. Most Californians can put off filing taxes until Oct. 16 but should they? And its what happens when the opponent is a team like Montana State. Still the club found a handful of highlights to string together, including a couple shots of QB Trey Lance making throws. While theres still a lot to be developed in his game, theres legit hype around Trey Lance and based on traits alone, hes going to hear his name early whenever he decides to declare for the draft. In this image, Rodgers was holding the ball right below his chest. I know everybody talks about the throwing motion and the slow-mo videos and all that, but it wasnt as much as you guys think, Lance said. Try a week on us. The longtime NFL quarterback had been a broadcaster since 2009, and last season was his first as an assistant coach. While he still has one more year to develop as a passer, I could also see him having a low floor if rushed to play right away. Email: ebranch@sfchronicle.com Twitter: @Eric_Branch. The fact that hes able to roll-out or sit in the pocket while making a strong throw bodes well for his long-term future and makes him even more dangerous. Video access during OTAs is difficult to come across, but the 49ers on Thursday posted a quick highlight video of some of the goings on from the first few days of on-field practices. Passing-game coordinator Bobby Slowik also mentioned that Lance occasionally was adjusting his arm slot, but said his mechanics hadnt been tweaked in the offseason. He looked like a man amongst boys as just a redshirt freshman, but his opponents for the most part are not NFL players. Hes not ready. (AP Photo/Jeff Chiu). He also made two starts in Weeks 5 and 17 when Jimmy Garoppolo was injured. He finished 16-of-23 for 249 yards with two touchdowns and one interception in a 23-7 win. Its different working away from the building because youre working primarily as a thrower and not necessarily as a quarterback., Regarding his motion, Lance said, I dont feel like it slows me down. Jimmy did a decent job for the Niners ,and I wish him the best, but He will never reach Elite level due to his physical limitations . 28 Reply [deleted] 1 yr. ago [removed] Reply Drodman93 Joe Staley And when you have all the swelling out, when you have all the stiffness out is when hes had the best outcomes., The delay, of course, will add another two weeks to Purdys rehabilitation. It sure looks like the 49ers may, may have gone with the wrong quarterback. The development curve for Lance always seemed like it was going to be higher than for the other four first-round quarterbacks from last year. Smells like football pic.twitter.com/hAuyfkdQqk, San Francisco 49ers (@49ers) May 26, 2022. QB Nate Sudfeld, the presumptive backup, completed 12 of 14 passes and had the best throw of the day, a perfectly placed deep pass to Turner for a touchown of 50-plus yards. Likewise, Shanahan isnt playing an endless loop of Lances throwing motion in his head that keeps him awake at night. Thats the ultimate sign of a competitor in my eyes. Where are your feet? With Trey, he needs to take a couple of weeks off, Shanahan said, via 49ersWebzone.com. The whole matter of a throwing motion which has been criticized for being too elongated as well as the occasional delivery that doesnt produce a spiral simply isnt a big deal. As Hewlett explained, thats beneficial for sequencing. Lance and Fields' natural arm strength is on a completely different level. Opinion: Colorado farms going fallow? We all know his attributes as a quarterback. Player to Stay Away From: Kyle Trask, Florida. Proper sequencing allows the hips to open toward the target first, followed by the arm so that the quarterback is generating power with his body and not mainly through the arm. The pandemic-altered 2020 college football season was unusual for players nationwide, but few had it quite like North Dakota State quarterback Trey Lance. Arm angles change here and there, Shanahan said. He appeared to have a Still, Lance is able to keep his front shoulder stable and close so that his hips open up first. The first person that Brock would come off and talk to was Trey, Lynch said. Trey Lance running the first-team offense and starting in Week 1 like he did last season, and (2.) Web124 votes, 46 comments. After he releases the ball, he snaps his wrist down so both his palm and thumb point to the grass, As he starts to get healthy, Lance has taken any reworking of his throwing motion off the table, which probably wont be received well by by fans or the front office. Had it been a game or an open practice with fans in attendance, there would have been an audible buzz, because it was one of those moments that was perfect for the kind of overreaction that comes naturally with the most important position in professional sports. The 49ers originally thought Purdys recovery would last roughly six months and hed be back in full for the start of training camp in late July. Its hard to imagine a team quarterbacked by Lance struggling in that area. According to Hewlett, 0.4 is neither slow nor fast. Lance has said he doesnt intend to tinker with his throwing motion, which is decidedly longer than Garoppolos and Purdys clipped deliveries. Even more important, Lance, all of 22 years old, appears to be growing nicely into his role as the face of the 49ers. Still the club found a handful of highlights to string together, including a couple shots of QB Trey Lance making throws. Hell, I had not heard of him until this past April. Aside from specific things hes working on on any given day, theres not much difference.. While hes a little bit smaller than those guys, they are all excellent runners and do a lot of their damage on the ground despite not being freakishly fast like Lamar Jackson or Kyler Murray. Trey Lance expects to be throwing normally soon for the first time since the Sept. 18 injury that ended his season. Heres why. I wasnt playing. Lance lead the Bison to an undefeated season as a redshirt freshman and was the first freshman to win the Walter Payton Award (1-AA most outstanding offensive player, their version of the Heisman essentially). Matt Barrows of the Athletic spoke with Adam Dedeaux, the QB coach Lance is working with this offseason in Southern California, and Dedeaux said there havent been any mechanical adjustments yet. The Broncos were 27th in the NFL in red-zone efficiency last season (53.3%) and havent been successful over 60% of the time since 2014. Second-year 49ers QB Trey Lance has one of the most widely scrutinized throwing motions in recent memory. He will get his chance this year though, as the Bison take on Oregon in week 1 (assuming the season happens, fingers crossed) in a must watch game. its not something Im worried about.. Lynch better have a sold vet on the team who can step in. He has a long wind up and a dip motion which is something you can get away at Purdys ligament snapped as the result of a hit from Eagles pass rusher Haason Reddick on Jan. 29. Of Lances 21 throws, 11 were either dump-offs to a running back after an initial read or a quick pass outside to a receiver. Its too long a motion. Absolute insanity. 49ers. However, if you watch some of the best, most efficient throwers of all time, a lot of them have what could be considered elongated throwing motions that dip the ball. Trey Lance suffered a season-ending ankle injury in September and underwent two surgeries. You dont throw for 28 touchdowns and 0 interceptions without being a great decision-maker. This is a carousel. You know the defense, they know the offense, so you cant really go for the big plays. Thats why hes throwing better at 40 than he did at 30. True, but Wentz was also at NDSU for five years before getting drafted and spent his rookie season experiencing a lot of growing pains. The Bison were dominant in 2019, outscoring opponents 596-197, including a 42-14 win over Montana State in the FCS semifinals. Some of the delay and the swelling and all that its not like a typical baseball injury, Lynch said Tuesday at the NFL Scouting Combine. Whats happening is that between the time Lance starts his throwing motion and the ball actually coming out of his hand he is lowering the launch point for the ball out of his hand. Everyone throws differently. Lances 0.42 is a bit on the slower side, but dipping the ball isnt the culprit. Yikes rebuild incoming, free agents gonna walk. The first was to repair two injuries to his ankle, a fibula fracture and ligament disruption. WebTrey Lance of the San Francisco 49ers on the sideline after throwing a 76-yard touchdown during the game against the Green Bay Packers at Levi's Stadium on August 12, 2022 in Santa Clara, California. Get premium, high resolution news photos at Getty Images Player Worth Trading Up to Take: Justin Fields, Ohio State. He has a long wind up and a dip motion which is something you can get away at the 1-AA level but cant in the NFL. I dont think he will surpass Trevor Lawrence, but I wouldnt be shocked at all if he cracks the top three in the 2021 draft. Miss Manners: I shouldn't call because the phone scares people? Even though he separates his hand from the ball quickly, he is still able to consistently keep his front shoulder from opening up too quickly, which would throw off his sequencing. Its absolutely not Trey Lances fault, but you have to take it into account. Jimmys going to go play some good football for someone.. Asked about Garoppolo on Tuesday, Lynch was more diplomatic than Kyle Shanahan, who on Feb. 1 said he didnt see any scenario in which Garoppolo returns. Lance was a three-star recruit out of high school and did have D1 offers from schools like Boise State and Western Michigan, but went to North Dakota State in the hopes to be a champion. INDIANAPOLIS Dont be overly alarmed about lingering swelling in Brock Purdys right elbow. A state court just Workers in S.F. With Trey Lance expected to take over as starting quarterback for the San Francisco 49ers, there are still many questions about what kind of player he is going to be in the NFL. Speaking to ESPN's Jeremy Fowler, an opposing team's offensive coach pointed out that Lance's throwing motion looked "wonky" from what he saw in 2021. I dont usually agree with Kyle but on this one I do. Via Barrows recent mailbag: His instructor, Adam Dedeaux, told me that wasnt the case there werent any significant modifications and that the sessions served as more of a reset after a 2021 season in which Lance dealt with several injuries, including to the forefinger on his throwing hand. Mond wont fit every teams offensive system and wont be a Day 1 starter anywhere, but his traits are intriguing. Head coach Kyle Shanahan was asked Lance kept his eyes downfield, one of his better qualities to extend plays, and threw back across the field to the right sideline in 6.62 seconds to hit Williams for the catch-and-run touchdown. Quarterback coaches will teach players to use their front-side hand to push the ball backward to help keep their front shoulder from opening up before their hips can. It seems like that's going to be the plan, but until Garoppolo is traded or released there will always be a level of uncertainty. Training camp reports have not been kind to Lance, nitpicking at his throwing motion and completion percentage during practices. He has a tendency to be a little wild, which is tough to imagine since he completed 66% of his passes. The usefulness of Lances mobility in the running game was a different story. Or Nick Bosa. It sounds like Lance has started throwing again in the Bay Area. That means he went 15 games and three quarters without turning the ball over. While I think his coaches might hold their breath sometimes when he tries to run over defenders, to me it shows that hes willing to do whatever it takes to win. Subscribe to The Athletic for in-depth coverage of your favorite players, teams, leagues and clubs. Instead, it was the first day of a mandatory three-day minicamp and the isolated instance came and went. From overlooked prospect to unbeaten-yet-still-unknown superstar, Lance stands to be a top-10 pick this month as part of a loaded quarterback class. How fast are you throwing it? "I know everyone has their opinion on it, but for me, it's about getting the ball out, accuracy. Its going to be exciting to see Shanahans playbook reach full potential with a mobile quarterback that can throw it down the Field . But he said Lance also never acted threatened following his injury. The 49ers set the wheels in motion for a quarterback change when they drafted Trey Lance with the third overall pick in last years draft and the next step of that change is set to take place this offseason. If you give him any space and he trusts it, hes going to zip it in. In training camp this year, he cut down his release time by 0.06, a notable improvement. Please check your email for a confirmation. Rookie cornerback Samuel Womack, a fifth-round selection, jumped an underneath throw intended for undrafted rookie wideout Tay Martin, but couldnt secure the pick. Lance might have been taught to hold the ball higher so he wouldnt dip as low as he does, but hes still dipping the ball. Like I said, it's a lot different working down there or working away from the building because you're working primarily as a thrower, not necessarily as a quarterback. Lance appears to have changed his throwing motion. Last season, I timed Lances release time at 0.48 seconds, which There have also been times where his footwork can get sloppy and he wont do basic things like setting his feet or turning his hips towards his receiver and just relying on his arm to make the throw. More specifically for Broncos general manager George Paton: Is Lance an obvious upgrade over Drew Lock? As soon as Lance starts his throw, his front-side hand separates away from the ball and his elbow flares up. In conclusion, the most important component of throwing is sequencing, and although there are things Lance could clean up in his overall motion, he still sequences well and can generate a ton of velocity. I know everyone talks about it . The great quarterbacks continue to refine their techniques throughout their entire careers. With Garoppolo around, Lance deferred to the starter. The old-school way of thinking is to get it up by your ear as quick as you can and get it out, Hewlett said. The use of any team names, words, trademarks, logos or photos have been used for descriptive purposes only. The Supreme Court gutted a California worker law. Trey Lance, San Francisco 49ers quarterback, cleans out his locker in the locker rooms in Levis Stadium in Santa Clara, Calif., on Tuesday, Jan. 31, 2023. Very quick. Lance completed 17 of 20 passes, primarily on short, underneath routes, with 12 of his completions going to running backs or tight ends. Given what the 49ers traded to select Lance with the No. Follow us for breaking news and latest updates: Thanks for subscribing! He still looked skittish AF, but hes working on the mechanics and I hope to see a nice short release after a full offseason of work as a starter. Pharos-Tribune, York (Pa.) Daily Record and San Luis Obispo Tribune. Seeing him in the locker room now, I dont really see a difference, Williams said. The hope is Purdy will need only an internal brace repair, which would include a six-month recovery. He graduated from San Jose State University with a BA degree in journalism. Lynch said hes been watching Lances progress from his second-story office window. Him seeing the game from last year has made him more comfortable this year, Ward said. I was a The epic California snowpack is inching toward record levels. If that team is the Broncos, it could cost a future first-round pick and more to get him in order to move up in the draft. I dont care what level of football it is, its almost impossible to do better than that. But take away a 75-yard touchdown pass to Christian Watson and a 73-yard touchdown pass to Dimitri Williams on a broken play and Lance averaged 3.95 yards per attempt on his other 19 throws. In this image from a training camp clip posted by the 49ers social media team, you can see Lance dip the ball. Either way, having Purdy back for training camp seems too optimistic. Trey needs to take some time off and his throwing moton definitely needs work. Sean Payton very excited to have Vance Joseph as Broncos DC after four years in Arizona, Davis Webb played for the Giants just weeks ago. He finished 15-of-30 for 149 yards, two touchdowns and one interception and added 143 yards and two TDs on 15 carries. You play with your fundamentals and improve the plays that you have.. Talanoa Hufanga lined up with the first-team defense at strong safety, an up-for-grabs position after the 49ers didnt re-sign longtime starter Jaquiski Tartt this offseason. He overcame a brutal shot to the ribs to throw for 385 yards and six touchdowns, including some really high-level plays. Hes got some smart schemes. Town Talk. We still have free agency and the NFL Draft to get through. Thats whats hard to figure out. Trey Lance played baseball growing up and you can see that in his throwing motion. Rodgers held the ball all the way up to his chin with the ball parallel to the ground. 3 pick last year, it's in their best interest to give him the keys to the offense this season. Make that ultra-light. Harriette Cole: I don't want the neighbor's kids at my house, Ask Amy: I feel guilty for not speaking up about my co-worker's activities, Ask Amy: I'm your cabin housekeeper, and you apparently have no idea what I do, Dear Abby: My wife said she doesn't like it, but it's part of my life. Klint will replace pass game coordinator Bobby Slowik, whom the Texans recently hired as their offensive coordinator. But he ultimately reached the same conclusion as Shanahan. The quarterback took to social media to ask for "a few college receivers" for (presumably) a Bay Area throwing session, starting on Friday (h/t Grant Cohn of SI) Hes incredibly tough to scout due to his competition and the fact hes just more athletic than everybody on the defense put together. He made it work because hes a rare athlete, but he became a much more fluid thrower after reaching the NFL and being taught to hold the ball lower. And thats the biggest challenge: Weve got a team thats ready to go now, and hes got to get out there and play. Coming off a sensational redshirt freshman season 16-0 record, 42 passing/rushing touchdowns, no interceptions and an FCS championship the nearly 6-foot-4 Lance was zooming up draft boards because of his big arm and untapped upside. The practices are not padded and theres no contact allowed so there isnt a lot to glean from the on-field work. In baseball, years of fastballs and sliders create so much accumulated strain on the ligament that it eventually tears. A little over nine months later against Central Arkansas, Lance looked like a top prospect who had not played in an actual game in months and felt the pressure of all eyes being on him. 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